Hey! Love your posts. Was wondering what you felt about the Alien prequels now being renamed "Prometheus" and apparently having little to do with the franchise?
I don’t trust film rumors very much, because a lot can change during a film’s pre-production phase. But given what I’ve heard most recently, it seems that there is a chance the “space-jockey” will feature in the movie, but probably not any xenomorphs as we know them. If, indeed, we get to find out more about the space-jockey, then I will be really excited, and I trust Ridley to do it well.
If it turns out that Prometheus does not have any direct connection to the Alien saga, then I will be less excited but I’m sure it will still be a good film. Hopefully the buzz about the “Alien Prequel” tells Hollywood that plenty of fans are interested in seeing the origins of the aliens explored on film.
Anyone else have thoughts?
At least, it seems that “Prometheus” is set in the same universe as “Alien”. Just how much we’ll see of aliens that are connected to “Alien”, that still seems vague.
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Submitted by xenoinfestation:
I made this :) It’s my dedication to the now “not being made” Alien Prequel. Bummer.
Very cool! Thanks for submitting it. I’m glad there were others that were looking forward to a prequel. May she rest in peace.
Re: Alien prequel minus Ripley.
I've heard loads of people say they'd love to see an alien prequel and it kind of raises the hairs on the back of my neck. The first problem is the nearly every prequel ever made has sucked many, many balls. It's a rarity that a prequel can even match an existing movie, let alone better it.
But here's my real beef with an alien prequel - if humans are involved in any way (like, say AVP, the pile of shit that I hate talking about) it rewrites the plot of Alien. In the original Alien movie, nobody had any idea what they were up against - hence the xenomorph could utterly ruin everyone onboard. If there's a prequel which involves humans, it means that somebody, somewhere, already knew of the existence of the xenmorphs, which would make Ash's (Iam Holm's) reaction inexplicable. There's no way that an android built by The Company (who seem to have a finger in every pie) would not have known about the existence of the xenomorphs if anyone else had run in to them, and since Ash had clearance above even that of Dallas, there's no way he, Ash, wouldn't have known about their existence either. It wouldn't make any sense that his behaviour would change so radically upon the discovery of the xenomorphs because he already would have known about them.
I dunno if I'm explaining myself properly, but to sum up: an Alien prequel, by the very nature of prequels, would probably suck. Even if it didn't, it would ruin the original 1979 movie, which is one of the most flawless horror movies ever made. Do you still want it to be made?
Corrolary: Am I talking out of my ass and, if so, how so?
You make some excellent points. I had considered that a human interaction with xenomorphs prior to Alien would “rewrite Alien”, as you say. Here is my response to that:
Consider “Predator” and “Predators”; in neither movie is evidence of the aliens able to be brought back to be studied. Although humans interact with predators, most humans on Earth remain unaware of their existence; only governments or powerful companies would be able to obtain information about them. The same thing could happen in an Alien prequel.
What’s more, there are several hints in “Alien” that the company knew something about the existence of xenomorphs. My assumption was: at some point the company got a small sample of alien tissue and, discovering its potential, resolved to commit any expense to recovering a live specimen if they could ever be found.
I think Ash’s behavior is perfectly compatible with the idea of him having prior knowledge. Consider that he was a last-minute addition to the crew… Weyland-Yutani believed the aliens to be somewhere in the region of space that the Nostromo would be passing through, so they put Ash on board with a the “Priority One” directive to protect the alien, in case one should be encountered.
I think the prequel would be the perfect opportunity to set this stage for Alien. Humans, perhaps on one of our very first deep-space voyages, discover the space-jockey’s ship, perhaps still in flight, engage an earlier form of the alien, and barely escape back to Earth with a small about of information about the creature. Weyland-Yutani resolves to obtain a live one at any cost.
And I agree that the AVPs sucked balls. I would definitely hate for a prequel to resemble those monstrosities, but hey, this was Ridley Scott; I trust him to make a solid flick, not just some money-grubbing action/gore-fest.
I would love to see an Alien prequel without Ripley.
Ripley is the supreme badass of Alien, but the Xenomorph itself carries enough interest to generate a 2 hour fan service movie, right?
That’s my opinion! I think the story of the “space jockey” and origin of the aliens was material enough for several more movies, not having to rely on the others at all.
But there are few filmmakers I would trust to do it, remaining true to the mythos and spirit of Alien. Ridley Scott is one of them, so I was excited at the idea of a prequel…
Am I the only "Alien" fan to breathe a sigh of relief that "Paradise" isn't an "Alien" prequel? Call me crazy, but I actually enjoyed "Alien³" and "Alien: Resurrection", and to me, the overarching "Alien" mythos has been Ripley vs. the Xenomorphs. I'm not knocking Ridley Scott's ability to make an audiovisual story--he's undoubtedly one of the best--but I didn't think that the "Alien" film wouldn't be the same without the central component of Ripley to carry it along.
Am I nuts?
I totally see where you’re coming from; as a story-arc about the character Ripley, the 4 movies form a great saga that should be left alone.
But as for me personally, what first attracted me to the Alien series was the xenomorphs’ fascinating biology & life-cycle, and I was eager to see more exploration of their origins and earlier forms.
“The wife of Swiss artist and designer H.R. Giger told the TV show Glanz & Gloria (video here) that her husband is ‘on board’ for the new ‘Alien’ film being developed by Ridley Scott.
“Previously, of course, Giger conceptualized and built designs for Ridley Scott’s original Alien — those designs scared the hell out of people and earned the artist an Oscar and legions of fans. His highly sexualized, ‘biomechanical’ visualizations were one of the primary factors that made Alien stand out from other films of the time, and his core xenomorph design became one of the most recognizable movie monsters.”
I sure hope that Giger will be on board. h/t crazyfishor
via ComingSoon and AvPGalaxy
A little ironic…
Also, there will apparently be an entirely-CGI character (a la Gollum), but not a xenomorph; some other type of alien. I don’t really like this idea; I preferred it if alien life was pretty rare in this universe. It seems more realistic.
Anyway, click-through for more interesting details
The film will be really tough, really nasty. It’s the dark side of the moon. We are talking about gods and engineers. Engineers of space. And were the aliens designed as a form of biological warfare? Or biology that would go in and clean up a planet?
“The chestburster in Alien grew into a creature that, like the Space Jockey to some extent, was biomechanic in appearance, and so [Ridley] Scott wished to make it clear that the facehugger that infected Kane had carried genes over from the Space Jockey, because the spores that were in the egg silo were possibly created by something that had erupted from a Space Jockey, and this is the reason for the biomechanic look of the alien creature.”
I am very happy to hear that Ridley Scott had this in mind. That means, if in the prequels we get to see the aliens before the space-jockey, they will be different in appearance than anything we’ve seen so far.